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Postby wolverine » Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:39 pm


aka Aussie wrote:
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That's because major part of the formula takes into account uploader's percentage of ALL pictures uploaded to AusCelebs. As other people are making more contributions (and uploader in question is not making contributions at the same exponential rate), the total number of points is reduced. But don't worry, as the time goes and more files are uploaded, it becomes more difficult to catch up with those who have high number of points.

Glad to see Myther has been making good progress up the list. New prolific cappers are always welcome.


That doesn't really make a lot of sense, as in a poster could upload more small crappy pics, against an uploader posting much higher quality, but sitting down the list.

Example - Bluey has posted some 4, 800 pics for a total of 298 MB, sitting directly below him is Sharkboi whom has uploaded 4,100 odd pics for a total of 2.5 GB, hence it's quite obvious a member posting higher quality has no reward. Blueys pictures posted average 63.5KB against Sharkboi's average of 639KB per pic.

Please note: I am not having a dig at Bluey, these 2 are just an example picked.


I understand your concern but if you read the formula summary

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Rank = round((log2(Pic_count_in_percent + 1) * 0.5 + log2(Pic_views_in_percent + 1) * 2) * 1000). (Simply said: number of views affects the rank the most, number of uploaded pictures four times less.)


What this says is that quality of pictures (popularity, number of clicks) will be 4 times as rewarding as quantity uploaded. My apologies if anyone didn't feel I explained it properly but I was trying to keep it simple.


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Postby czblack » Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:04 am


OK I didn't want to make any comments until the second version of auscelebs is ready, but since I'm responsible for the whole ranking thing, here are some of my thoughts.

I chose the current version of ranking system because:
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- It produces clear and acceptable interval of possible values (integer number: 0-16646), so no zillions which are produced when multiplying total values instead of percentage of totals.
- Ranks grow very fast at the beginning, which motivates new members.
- Ranks can both increase and decrease, depending on user activity.
- Base 2 (binary) logarithms are counted very fast on computers and are natively supported by the database server.

aka Aussie wrote:
That doesn't really make a lot of sense, as in a poster could upload more small crappy pics, against an uploader posting much higher quality, but sitting down the list.

Example - Bluey has posted some 4, 800 pics for a total of 298 MB, sitting directly below him is Sharkboi whom has uploaded 4,100 odd pics for a total of 2.5 GB, hence it's quite obvious a member posting higher quality has no reward. Blueys pictures posted average 63.5KB against Sharkboi's average of 639KB per pic.

Please note: I am not having a dig at Bluey, these 2 are just an example picked.


Larger average size of pictures does not necessarily mean higher quality of these. Number of views now creates 80% weight of the result because it is IMO the best measurement of the quality of uploaded stuff. The rest 20% for image count is there rather to appreciate uploader's effort. One of the reasonable changes that comes to my mind is to consider picture's width+height in the result to reward hi-res pic posters. The next version of statistics component should also remember stats for the last month (or week or so, this is not decided yet), so we may want to count rank only from activity in some limited period of time.

So I am not strictly against some changes in the formula, if anyone can come up with something better, it CAN be changed. Here are values that are available in the user stats database table (so these can be used in the formula):

- UploadedCount
- UploadedSize
- TotalPosts
- TotalViews
- TotalClicks
- LastUploaded
- PercentCount
- PercentSize
- PercentViews
+ pic's width and height if needed. :smoke:

EDIT: here's an example of progress of logarithmic function(s). Grows rapidly at the beginning, but the further it goes the less it grows.

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Postby atefooterz » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:29 am


Pic KB size reward, should be down, compared to clicked popularity. Otherwise it just rewards having a good net plan & patience. I could just upload sunrise caps all day at a slightly reduced size of 1.2MB each from the 4.2MB ea, they start as. My Stats would be huge but quality would so similar to what is currently posted as "180 - 320KB per pic", that most members will not notice any difference.

Similar we see issues about leechers here affecting some who have stopped posting ..but just crusing other sites & grabbing HQ pics and re upping them onto the Aussie C server is very easy effort compared to buying a mag & scanning scanning or the drudgery of capping a resource to post.

Cz new formula looks like a good way to balance rewards to all contributions, to keep contributions flowing from all motivated members :ohyes: :lol:


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Postby atefooterz » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:59 pm


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SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction [1213]

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INSERT INTO ... -- error info removed by czblack



Weird error when starting new topic ... it did post though ( i opened a new tab to log into site & it was there ! )


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Postby czblack » Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:07 pm


atefooterz wrote:
Quote:
General Error
SQL ERROR [ mysqli ]

Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction [1213]

SQL

INSERT INTO ... -- error info removed by czblack



Weird error when starting new topic ... it did post though ( i opened a new tab to log into site & it was there ! )

Thanks for the info man... google says that it is a bug that causes errors due to bad handling of transactions in this version of MySQL (database server). It happens very rarely and has no critical consequences apart from making user repeat the action again, but I'll ask wolverine if he could update the server to some newer version where the problem is already fixed. :yes:


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Postby czblack » Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:45 am


Vimeo player can now be attached via standard toolbox above posting window. I also slightly modified youtube vids attaching, to respect 16:9 aspect ratio and native video resolution.


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Postby atefooterz » Sat Dec 11, 2010 2:49 pm


czblack wrote:
Vimeo player can now be attached via standard toolbox above posting window. I also slightly modified youtube vids attaching, to respect 16:9 aspect ratio and native video resolution.




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The sound guy for this short movie is a legend (see credit at end ) !!! :P


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Postby locky1 » Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:13 pm


Had a period for about an hour today that couldn't access the site, was loading so very slowly, is back and working well as usual now, just letting you know there may had been a problem, all other sites i accessed had no problems


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Postby czblack » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:22 pm


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Had a period for about an hour today that couldn't access the site, was loading so very slowly, is back and working well as usual now, just letting you know there may had been a problem, all other sites i accessed had no problems

Thanks for the info locky :yes: We did not get any info about this issue from our server provider [so far] nor any more feedback from our members and things seem to be in order now, so hopefully it was only some local short-time issue. If there should be any more downtimes, the most useful info for us is when and where the problem occured (for example: 11:30 - 12:30, Sydney).


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Postby atefooterz » Wed Dec 15, 2010 1:41 am


site has been all good for me today ( sydney ) vodaphone 3G


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