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 by RustyNail » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:52 pm
Nicely said robpr. Symptoms, however, can differentiate / come in many forms too. If you have a family GP (like I have for over 20 years), consult them first with that plan. There are ways of easing off them.
In regard to Charlotte, it is extremely sad. She was gorgeous and such an elegant lady. The internet/social media trolls are still going at it. Even on 7 News FB today saying she deserved it and other similar comments. WTF is wrong with these people??? I hope they burn in hell. Just glad in some way that both my parents are resting in peace - not having to witness so much anger and hatred in the world today.
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by phunkyfeelone » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:06 pm
robpr wrote: Yes, depression is absolutely fueled by tablets (even antidepressants after a time), or alcohol. It will exacerbate the emotions x at least 10. I experienced depression for years, and was on some kind of tablet or tablets the entire time. The emotions and thoughts were simply overpowering; the drugs/alcohol fuel the emotions to such a degree that you can become overwhelmingly sad, feel utterly hopeless and useless, and suicidal. Its just like pouring petrol on a fire. As soon as I removed all tablets and alcohol from my system I never reached those depths again - and never had a single bad thought as in suicidal, again.
Anyone that read this who might be depressed - I urge you to get off tablets and most definitely stay away from alcohol at *all* costs. You aren't doing yourself any favours whatsoever. You only compound the misery, depression becomes very, very hard to escape once you are in the clutches of alcohol/meds/drugs. Well done robpr for coming to the realisation that the anti-depressants and alcohol only mask the symptoms, they don't treat the problem. I went to see a Doctor last year about depression, first thing he said was that he can prescribe me anti-depressants. I gave him an earful about the medical system prescribing drugs of dependence that don't treat the cause, and there is little wonder why mental health continues to become a bigger issue when all doctors do is give pills. He was silent...Fortunately I knew the cause, so got that part of life sorted out, now going much better. She obviously had issues for a while, likely compounded by her former husband's interview this week mentioning drugs, prostitutes. Possibly also during the time they were together i'm sure...sad that she becomes a victim of the actions of others, yet nobody but herself is held accountable 
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by phishtaco » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:14 pm
robpr wrote: Yes, depression is absolutely fueled by tablets (even antidepressants after a time), or alcohol. It will exacerbate the emotions x at least 10. I experienced depression for years, and was on some kind of tablet or tablets the entire time. The emotions and thoughts were simply overpowering; the drugs/alcohol fuel the emotions to such a degree that you can become overwhelmingly sad, feel utterly hopeless and useless, and suicidal. Its just like pouring petrol on a fire. As soon as I removed all tablets and alcohol from my system I never reached those depths again - and never had a single bad thought as in suicidal, again.
Anyone that read this who might be depressed - I urge you to get off tablets and most definitely stay away from alcohol at *all* costs. You aren't doing yourself any favours whatsoever. You only compound the misery, depression becomes very, very hard to escape once you are in the clutches of alcohol/meds/drugs. I completely agree about the medication and alcohol. I've suffered from depression and anxiety since I was fourteen years old. I've been on at least a dozen types of anti-depressant medication in the last 8 years. None of it worked. Just last week I tried a new one as advised by my GP (you'd think I'd learn by now) and it absolutely fucked me up. I had no energy and pretty much slept for three days straight. The nightmares that accompanied it were terrible... Never again. If you're feeling depressed, please give Lifeline a call on 13 11 14. They're there to help.  https://www.lifeline.org.au/
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by robpr » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:24 pm
nice work phukyfeelone! You have guts to do that, but you are spot on. I do think antidepressants are helpful to a lot of people but only for a short period of time, not forever. In the long run they will turn against you. They mask the real problems, just like sweeping dust under the carpet. Dust is still there. I suggest if you have to get on any tablets, do the inner work whilst on them. Once you shine a lot on your thoughts and understand the root cause of the depression its like sunlight on a vampire; it cant stand it. EVen a little bit of insight into the thoughts/workings of your mind can help enormously.
Exactly phishtaco.. and the thing is, in this society, its all about tablets, tablets, tablets. The instant cure-all for everything. Short term you might think yes! this is it, the cure for all my problems! after a while you realize uh oh whats going on. I feel even worse than when I started.. what do I do now?
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by narly » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:40 pm
The person I mentioned doesn't want to stop drinking even though they know it is the cause of the problem , well that and the relationship there in . Her family has tried to advise her and help her but she is paranoid that everyone is against her to stage that she want's nothing to do with her mother and father and all but one sister. It's very sad & soul-destroying.
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by wolverine » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:01 pm
She struck me as a bit of a loose cannon but it is very sad nonetheless. While I have no experience whatsoever with depression personally, I would be careful dishing out advice to people about use or non-use of drugs to treat the problem. Everyone is different and what works for you likely won't work for everybody else. That's why we have doctors that train for decades to do that job - I would much rather trust their advice then some of the things I read here. While there are GP hacks out there, if you've known them for years and trust them, there is no reason why you shouldn't take their advice.
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by atefooterz » Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:03 pm
#RIPCharlotte
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by nicolatedeschi112013 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:08 pm
To the family and friends of Charlotte, my deepest sympathies go out to you in this dark hour of your life, not having ever met Charlotte I do understand what she has gone through as I have a sister in a similar catagory.
may she always be remembered in a positive way and may she be at rest with the angles above us.
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by atefooterz » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:44 pm
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by modecko » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:30 pm
It is so good to see those here with kind words and imparting their own experiences.
One of Charlotte's friends tweeted that only those who didn't know Charlotte Dawson put her down, those who did know her knew what a wonderful person she was.
A sad loss.
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