Dr Who (The Original Series)
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by husker » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:24 pm
Macc wrote: husker wrote: PS. Anthony Stewert Head while guest staring in Who will not be playing the master, their are currently no plans to introduce the master & since the movie (cringe) is considered cannon they'd have to explain how the mast looks different given he can't regenerae Nothing in the telemovie directly contradicts the series as the nature of regeneration has never been consistent. It's not like there haven't been other glaring inconsistencies, e.g. whether the Doctor is part human or not and Time Lords getting romantic.
What i meant was they'd have to give either get Eric Roberts (unlikely) or explain why the master looks different since he is unable to regenerate
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by SKaVeN » Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:50 pm
husker wrote: Macc wrote: husker wrote: PS. Anthony Stewert Head while guest staring in Who will not be playing the master, their are currently no plans to introduce the master & since the movie (cringe) is considered cannon they'd have to explain how the mast looks different given he can't regenerae Nothing in the telemovie directly contradicts the series as the nature of regeneration has never been consistent. It's not like there haven't been other glaring inconsistencies, e.g. whether the Doctor is part human or not and Time Lords getting romantic. What i meant was they'd have to give either get Eric Roberts (unlikely) or explain why the master looks different since he is unable to regenerate
Roger Delgado was the original master but, tragically, died in a car crash in Spain during Jon's reign as the Doctor. Tom's Master story "The Deadly Assassin" also featured the Master but as a dying & decaying creature at the end of his last regeneration. He appeared again in The Keeper of Traken (still not looking any better) so "stole" Tremas' (Nyssa's dad) body & henceforth, became the new Master (ie: Anthony Ainley).
The fact that the Master changed again & became Eric Roberts proves a second time that a mere matter of using up all of one's regerations is no obstacle for one as evil as the Master...
I'm more concerned that if the new Doctors all start to quit after just one season, that show will only last for five years!
Unless the Doctor does a bit of "body-snatching" of his own...  (Just kidding!)
PS: Yippee!!! The strand's back on the show instead of favourite companion boobies.
PPS: Shouldn't we be having this "Doctor Who (The New Series)" discussion in the "Doctor Who (The New Series)" strand...?
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by The Colourful Jester » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:08 pm
`Anthony Stewart Head (who is rumoured to be playing the Master in the new series'
Certainly thought of the Master when I saw the preview at the end of the Xmas Invasion. The actor I saw must have been Head, but he sure looks different. And vicious. But maybe the discussion of ASH should be thrown into the other Who thread.
And on a sader note, just about three stories left of the original series to go. Unless they include the 1996 movie.
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by SKaVeN » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:32 pm
The Colourful Jester wrote: `Anthony Stewart Head (who is rumoured to be playing the Master in the new series'
Certainly thought of the Master when I saw the preview at the end of the Xmas Invasion. The actor I saw must have been Head, but he sure looks different. And vicious. But maybe the discussion of ASH should be thrown into the other Who thread.
And on a sader note, just about three stories left of the original series to go. Unless they include the 1996 movie.
I'm sure that they must be either skipping more then just the dalek ones or showing them out of order...
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by meperson » Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:56 pm
If they did bring The Master back then perhaps Bill Nighe would be a good choice to be the first blond Master. It would certainly make a change from the 'black hair and goatee' image.
By the way SKaVeN, I'm still struggling through the 'McCoy’s’. Oh well - still a few to go. 
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by SKaVeN » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:23 am
meperson wrote: By the way SKaVeN, I'm still struggling through the 'McCoy’s’. Oh well - still a few to go. 
Okay, as I said, it was the last year of Sylv's three-year era when the show really got its sh!t back together &, so far, the only one they've shown from this series is the first one; "Battlefield" which is the least desirable adventure of the four. The next one is "Ghost Light" which I consider to be one of the show's finest ever moments. It has also been widely critically acclaimed as such. The following & final two adventures are "The Curse of Fenric" & "Survival" which are both very good indeed.
Apart from his third series opener "Battlefield", Aunty has only shown his:
First Series - which wasn't his finest because the scripts had already been written before the writers knew there was to be a new Doctor so they didn't even know who they were writing for & therefore presumed they were still writing for a "comical" Doctor.
Second Season - which only had two major highlights; "Remembrance of The Daleks" (which the ABC skipped altogether) & "The Greatest Show in The Galaxy" & perhaps, to a lesser extent "Silver Nemesis" (but I'm a bit biased because the cybermen were always my favourite). The second series was also starting to give us an idea of where Sylv wanted to go with the character, not comical but a darker & mysterious figure which I think worked really well for both he & the show.
The question marked umbrella handle & woolly jumper was another stupid JNT thing. Sylv hated it as he felt it didn't suit his character & just made him look like a Batman villain. I somewhat tend to agree...
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by marlni » Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:34 am
SKaVeN wrote: Roger Delgado was the original master but, tragically, died in a car crash in Spain during Jon's reign as the Doctor. Tom's Master story "The Deadly Assassin" also featured the Master but as a dying & decaying creature at the end of his last regeneration. He appeared again in The Keeper of Traken (still not looking any better) so "stole" Tremas' (Nyssa's dad) body & henceforth, became the new Master (ie: Anthony Ainley). The fact that the Master changed again & became Eric Roberts proves a second time that a mere matter of using up all of one's regerations is no obstacle for one as evil as the Master... I'm more concerned that if the new Doctors all start to quit after just one season, that show will only last for five years! Unless the Doctor does a bit of "body-snatching" of his own...  (Just kidding!) Okay. Let's clear some things up. The common view is that Roger Delgado's Master was in his 13th, and last, incarnation. From 'The Legacy of the Daleks', we find out how he became disfigured and lost his TARDIS (in 'The Deadly Assassin') - he nicked Susan from Earth (after David Campbell was killed), not realising that she was Gallifreyan and could telepathically communicate with TARDISes. The Master had nicked some weird crystal thing from the Daleks, and when Susan used the TCE on him, he became disfigured and the crystal thingo, which absorbed some of the energy, was destroyed. Susan left him on Terserus (where that Chancellor dude picked him up) and flew off in the Master's TARDIS. The Master has a new TARDIS by 'The Deadly Assassin' and 'The Keeper of Traken', when he merges with Tremus and loses his greys. In 'The Eight Doctors', we find out how the Master is destroyed by the Daleks and how he survives - the snake thing absorbs his sort of life essence and can 'merge' with another being. We already have the ability to bring the Master back - in 'The Deadly Assassin', his actions, if the Doctor hadn't stopped him, would have destroyed Gallifrey. If he was smart enough, his TARDIS would have an independent power source, which would allow his TARDIS to survive both destructions of Gallifrey. The Colourful Jester wrote: `Anthony Stewart Head (who is rumoured to be playing the Master in the new series'
Certainly thought of the Master when I saw the preview at the end of the Xmas Invasion. The actor I saw must have been Head, but he sure looks different. And vicious. But maybe the discussion of ASH should be thrown into the other Who thread.
And on a sader note, just about three stories left of the original series to go. Unless they include the 1996 movie.
Okay, that has nothing to do with the Master. Anthony Stewart Head is playing Mr Finch, the school headmaster in episode 3 of the new season. From the promo, he turns into some sort of evil vampire thing.
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by chris_jardim » Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:39 pm
I was just reading up on the good doctor, and I was a little shocked to read that Patrick Troughton (d2) died in "mysterious circumstances" while at a DW convention in the states in 1987. Anyone know anything on this
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by The Colourful Jester » Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:18 pm
I thought I read that it was a heart attack after he dressed up in his Doctors costume. Never heard of `mysterious circumstances.'
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by marlni » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:58 am
chris_jardim wrote: I was just reading up on the good doctor, and I was a little shocked to read that Patrick Troughton (d2) died in "mysterious circumstances" while at a DW convention in the states in 1987. Anyone know anything on this
He was attending the convention in Georgia and died at 7.25am on March 28th, 1987. I think the "mysterious circumstances" may have been the fact that the heart attack which killed him came just after he placed his order for breakfast. Apparently he was dead before he had fallen back on the bed...
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