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Postby Macc » Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:04 pm


Let's try to keep this to election administrivia rather than politics and policies as such.

The P&C grapevine is reporting that the Australian Electoral Commission has started booking school halls for 21 August.


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Postby Macc » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:11 pm


And they're off!

If you have turned 18 within the last 3 years, you have until 8pm Monday to enrol to vote.


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Postby Macc » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:39 pm


Election timeline.

Announcement: Saturday, 17 July 2010
Issue of writs: Monday, 19 July 2010
Deadline to enrol to vote: 8pm Monday, 19 July 2010
Deadline to update your electoral roll details (Close of rolls): 8pm Thursday, 22 July 2010
Close of nominations: 12 noon Thursday, 29 July 2010
Declaration of nominations: 12 noon Friday, 30 July 2009
Election day: Saturday, 21 August 2010
Return of writs: Wednesday, 27 October 2010


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Postby Macc » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:40 pm


Advice of AEC offices open this Sunday for voters to enrol for the 2010 federal election

http://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Media_r ... 17-07a.htm


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Postby modecko » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:43 am


Please enrol people, it really is important though it mightn't seem so.

In many things both parties are no different to each other nowadays, so if you are a true swing voter it sometimes makes you despondent as to who to vote for. But it's still important that you vote. If you have a good independent in your electorate then you're lucky, otherwise make your choice wisely and ignore all the crap both parties will spin over the coming weeks. You cannot believe anything either one says so if check the facts rather than taking by rote anything said by either party.

I've never understood the blind ideologues who vote for one party purely out of ideology and for no other lucid reason, yet they are about 30-40% of voters for each side. As an example of the stupidity of ideology. In an electorate I once lived the local Liberal member was widely known as the worst sitting member that area had ever had, he could never be contacted, his office was nearly always closed and he never went into bat for the local area, yet as it was a safe conservative seat they kept voting him in, thus rewarding him for being a crap local member. I could not vote for that person and never did. I now live in another conservative area where the local sitting Liberal member is the best local member I've ever come across. She goes into bat for local issues boots and all, and is seen everywhere, constantly on the road meeting people and organising to get things done. I vote for her every time and will again this time. But I don't always vote Liberal, having also voted Labor and the Democrats all based on my local member at the time.

That is why your vote is important. As much as politics and the antics of both parties might piss you off and make you want to throw away your vote, don't. Find out whose your best local member or the one you think will get the most done, and vote for them no matter what party they belong to. Ideologues get what they deserve as can be seen by how both major parties have gone backwards over the last two decades. They get away with this because they know they have their blind followers locked in and only have to chase the swing voters for votes.

So if you really are a true swing voter please vote and if you aren't enrolled, enrol now. Even if you're an ideologue how about for once in your life changing allegiances, that would certainly shake up the system for the better, but I know it's never going to happen as can be seen by the purely ideologically and not rationally based comments throughout political threads and blogs.


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Postby Macc » Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:11 pm


The Governor-General's proclamation dissolving the 42nd Parliament was read out at 5pm. This means all the seats in the House of Reps have been vacated and there are now no Members of Parliament.

Caretaker conventions for the Federal Executive Council (the Prime Minister and Cabinet) apply from the same time.


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Postby Laxative Effect » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:37 pm


Macc wrote:
The Governor-General's proclamation dissolving the 42nd Parliament was read out at 5pm. This means all the seats in the House of Reps have been vacated and there are now no Members of Parliament.

Caretaker conventions for the Federal Executive Council (the Prime Minister and Cabinet) apply from the same time.


I have absolutely no idea what that means but it sounds interesting


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Postby danilo » Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:52 pm


Couldn't decide if this should be here or the political thread.

Got this article from the net, have cut out a small section. Please see attachment.

I have a question.

If Majority Preference Voting is indeed such a non-proportional system why use it for federal elections?

Shouldn't the number of seats out of 150 allocated to a party be in direct proportion to the percentage of (number 1) votes that party receives out of the entire country of voters?

For example, back in 2001 wouldn't it have been more fair if the parties that got 4% of total votes all got 6 seats each (4% of 150)?

Sorry if I screwed up any information or logic, I've only just started paying attention to this stuff so it's all rather new and strange. :dizzy:

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Postby modecko » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:51 pm


The state of play as of yesterday morning, it has changed slightly since then.

The Greens – 11.43% of vote = 0.7 seat(s)

LNP Qld – 9% of vote = 21 seat(s)

Nationals – 3.9% of vote = 7 seat(s)

CLP NT – 0.34% of vote = 0.7 seat(s)

So the CLP member in the NT with 0.34% of the national vote gets the same seat allocation as The Greens with 11.43% of the national vote.


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Postby RustyNail » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:12 pm


What a really intelligent country we have. 618,000+ turn up to vote only to rubbish it.
What a joke. Way to go you dumb fuckers.


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