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Postby modecko » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:56 pm


Thing is reb that so far no major criminals have ever come from boat people and 80% or or more are found to be genuine, which means that the previous government locked up for many years 80% of legal immigrants. Guilty before being proven innocent which is the opposite to our ingrained laws.

The Malaysians that are being made a great fuss over at the moment who killed Dr Victor Chang in a botched extortion attempt were legal immigrants who waited in the so called 'orderly queue'. Some of our most notorious gangs and criminals came in through normal immigration. So is it these who fly in (~15.000 illegal immigrants a year fly in) that we lock up on off shore islands waiting to be vetted? No it's those innocents who escape the criminals in government and in gangs who persecute them in their homelands that we lock up.


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Postby Reb » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:45 am


I agree ,
If a terroist thing happens , it will be home grown , just like London .

It will be from a group of muslims who the flag wearers have bashed/abused once too much .

and some extremists will pull aside and say '' they hate you and our way , let's do this '' BOOM !!

As for a bunch of boat people who face extinction , all they want is a chance .


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Postby SKaVeN » Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:25 pm


Well said, Rebsy.


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Postby modecko » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:13 pm


Let's put this in perspective:
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Of the 25 countries with the highest number of refugees within their borders, 15 are some of the least developed countries in the world. No developed countries have a place in the top 25. The first developed nation to figure on the list of refugee host countries per 1 USD GDP is Germany, which comes in at 26th place.

According to the UNHCR’s report on 2008 global trends of refugees, asylum seekers and the internally displaced, Pakistan has the highest number of refugees in its borders, at 1.8 million, followed by Syria with 1.1 million and Iran with 980,000.

Less than one per cent of the world’s refugees directly benefited from the UN’s resettlement program last year. This is the capacity of the queue us Australians so love to talk about.

Australia came 21st among the 44 developed countries who provide monthly data to the UNHCR, in accepting refugees per USD in GDP. On the flipside we accepted the second highest number of resettled refugees, admitting 11,000 refugees into Australia from the UN resettlement program. The US admitted the highest number of the 88,800 refugees resettled by the UN, at 60,200.

In 2006 there was a 20 year low in asylum seeker applications. This is the year the Liberal Party likes to point to as an example of how well their immigration policies worked. The number of people requesting asylum in 2008 rose 12 per cent on the previous year in group of 44 developed nations – however, the numbers are still well below the peak in 2001.

In 2008 there were 383,000 asylum applications reported to the UNHCR. Of the 383,000 asylum applications registered, Europe received 290,000 of them. Last year Australia had 4750 people apply for asylum.


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Postby gregorius » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:14 am


modecko are you not the same folk that pulled the plug on me over at mediaspy becuase of my views on 'jews and the media?' which were really moderate and not in the least either racist or for that matter pro?

yet completely censored I got?

but then you people go on about free speech & asylum seekers.


all i said was -"yes agree that the jews have major control over our [western] media as well our financial and banking system. and that it doesnt surprise me in the least that murdoch is of jewish heritage. and before we go on a pogram lets not frorget that fundamentalist christianity has essentially aided and abetted in stting the jew up for another pogrom by allowing israel the right to have US armament right beside them and never have to seek reconciliation with palestinian and that while there are leftist jews oppossed to this domination of the mid-east by israel, these are largely a minority. not that muslim has not in a indirect way aided and abietted israel and the west by becoming so corrupt and intolerant over the last 800 years".

what was so bad bout that?


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Postby gregorius » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:17 am


also stated that yes the jews have seriously bad lobby groups that you dont wanna fuck with


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Postby gregorius » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:31 am


my suspicions are that a certain RAY martino and his packer associates are much behind this and seem determined to use certain positions I have taken over the years with which to effect an outcome suited toward the 'new right' [richardson etc].

i maybe wrong dont think so.


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Postby gregorius » Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:13 am


As for all these modern day humanitarian refugee advocates and the like [feminists-environmentalis..ts] these are much the same self-styled left-wing ideologes that brought about some of the more horrendous outcomes of the 20th century where we witnessed authoritarian regimes reduce much of humanity to the most servile forms of life throughout- asia, eastern europe, africa, south america, largely by appealing to humanitarianist concerns like -'the good of the working classes' or 'equality between man and woman' etc etc.

The Fascists as nasty and as ignorant as they were, were responsible for basically germany and italy & for a few years only thankgod! [ok the franco regime and numerous other ones throughout sth america like pinochet lasted a lot longer]

- and although one could say that much of modern western capitalism is largely run to the benefit of the right-wing and all the Bush's, Murdoch's and the berlusconi's of the world, the other side; the 'leftists' [humanitarians] it could equally be accussed of have prevailed with their own particular version of 'in-humanity' for close to a century whereby millions had to endure a top echelon of demogogues legislating the most attrocious things under similar ideology's and persuasions commonly espoused by contemporary theorists of 'refugeeism' or 'feminism' basically.

Permit me to be sceptical but I see a comparison here, a ruse if you will, where a group of leftists still highly allied to communistic beliefs are determined to get hold off western democracy by appealing to conscience and thereby effect a situation where these and their 'cronies' will in effect dictate to normal everyday people.


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Postby Blastoise » Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:55 am


Little Johnny just had to throw his two pennies in :dizzy:

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Postby modecko » Mon Nov 09, 2009 5:37 pm


After promising (core promise) never to comment on contemporary politics the Lying Rodent has yet again spoken about contemporary politics. Someone has a list up and this must be contemporary political comment eight or nine.


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